Howdy everyone!
Some of y’all might be interested in an article I got posted over at The Space Review. It’s not my first article there, but it has been a while. A couple of weeks ago there was an article about EML-1 and one of the questions that kept getting raised was “What would you do at EML-1?”
For some reason I don’t seem to be able to post comments or vote over there, so I decided “Why not throw an article together and offer some suggestions of useful things to do there?”
Since I still don’t seem to be able to post there, I thought I’d offer up some additional commentary here at Out of the Cradle that addresses some of the criticisms raised in the comments.
[Update: Huh. Now the comments are up. Maybe Jeff checked the spam filter and okayed them?]
CharlesHouston notes the very real difficulty of “explaining to the voting public that you are going to a point that does not have “anything” there. The technical challenges are miniscule in comparison to the task of getting people to understand what you are doing.”
I know this first hand from talks I’ve given here in the metroplex. It’s quite a sight to see a room full of Mensa folks with their minds blown. When I talked at a Rotary Club it went right over most heads. The talk at Moon Day went well, but it was a much smaller audience and so more personal and interactive. If only I had access to a TV station and super-duper CGI technology, I could convert millions.
DerekL sniped: “Yep. And we’re ‘blind’ on the sunward side because a) it’s *much* harder to look in that direction, and b) the lighting on the objects we’re looking for is *much* less than ideal. Being at EML-1 does nothing to solve either of those problems.
Before proposing a mission/function, the author would be advised to know much more about the ‘how and why” of said mission/function before blithely going on about it.”
To address DerekL’s argument:
a) Of course it is much harder to look Sunward. Were it not the video in the article would look a lot different. For some folks, though, the ‘hard’-ness of space stuff is what gets them interested in the field, a challenge to tax their intellectual capabilities. My off-the-cuff suggestion would be a de-spun portion of a spin-stabilized spacecraft that would hold a sunshield between the instruments and the Sun.
b) Of course the lighting of objects sunward of the instruments would be much less than ideal - in the visible wavelength. Objects on the other side of the Sun would of course have varying degrees of illumination - in the visible wavelength. I’m not sure why the commenter seems to think that’s the only wavelength to which we’re constrained. Especially given that I mention looking across wavelengths. I am, though, assuming that the objects are spinning, and that we can look for infra-red traces on those rotating objects.
Harris Tweed further piled on with:
“The idea posed here, that you need a pole sitter to enable communication with the lunar far side, is pretty ridiculous. In fact, a relay satellite in a halo orbit around Earth-Moon L2 does that very nicely. A pole sitter is irrelevant to the lunar farside.”
This is a misreading of what I wrote, but I think less due to the language of the writing and more to the preconceptions of the commenter. At no point did I indicate that a pole sitter would be needed for communication with the far side, only that a pole-sitter would enable such. However, the commenter needs for me to have said ‘need’ for his criticism to have support, so that’s how he frames it.
Interestingly, over at Transterrestrial Musings, the same commenter notes:
“This idea has been floated by many others, including in very recent papers in the Space Review. This piece doesn’t add anything new. In fact, a habitat at Earth-Moon L1 was the notional architecture for the Decadal Planning Team ten years ago. This particular piece is somewhat unfortunate, though, because it makes a few mistakes with regard to optimal NEO sensing (L1 is really a pretty poor place from which to do that) and the prospects for pole-sitters (which are certainly not needed for farside communication, and don’t look anything like terrestrial pole sitters).”
The commenter indicates that I made a “mistake” regarding “optimal NEO sensing”, as apparently he considers EML-1 a “pretty poor place from which to do that”. A careful read indicates that what I actually wrote was that looking for NEOs would be an “ideal “first mission” for instruments emplaced at EML-1″. Not the same thing at all, and I would aver that anything out past the clutter of cis-GEO space is way better than anything we’ve got now. If the commenter has an optimal location for looking for NEOs, he does not identify it.
In the same paragraph in which he asserts that I offer nothing new, he also derides the pole-sitter suggestion for farside communications, indicating they’re not needed when I made no so such claim. He does at least offer up the usual trope of a comm sat in EML-2 orbit, an idea I try to avoid, as I would prefer that at least part of the farside be relatively quiet for the radio astronomers, and having a big old comm sat parked above the farside kind of defeats all of that. And yes, I know computers can filter interference.
Commenter Tom D does add that bouncing the signal off a pole sitter would shorten relay times to the farside versus off a sat in a halo orbit out at EML-2, something I hadn’t considered.
fritz wants to know why I don’t mention a Lunavator, a space elevator that would ascend through the Lagrange point to a counterbalance in the Earth’s gravitational sphere of influence. It’s a good idea for testing out the space elevator concept with minimal risk to Earth (other than, you know, the counterbalance, which would likely be mounted with rockets to kick it into Earth orbit if something goes wrong. The idea gets treatment in Schrunk et al’s “The Moon: Resources, Future Development, and Settlement” (which also notes the “sitting” capabilities of solar sails). In all honesty, while I like the idea, I think it’s a bit further in the future than what I was talking about
spacechampion wants to know “So how many years constructing things at EML1 would we have to do before we can go some place interesting? 20? 30?” spacechampion doesn’t indcate what he/she thinks is an interesting destination, but as far as I’m concerned we’re not in a race anywhere. We’ll get there as fast as we have the will, and the more options we build in in the interim the better off we will be in the long run.
astronist counters “But its utility for manned access to the Moon and beyond is limited. The key requirement driving any architecture for a safe passenger-carrying system above LEO is shielding against solar storm radiation, and this forces the solution of Earth-Moon cyclers (or, for Mars, Earth-Mars cyclers).”
I disagree that any solution is “forced” by the presence of radiation, and 24/7 access to the entirety of the Moon’s surface is not something to be dismissed lightly. One byproduct that has been proposed for oxygen processing is cladding for crewed assets in space to address that very issue. It’s not like no one has ever thought of the idea of radiation in space, and countermeasures. By the same token, nothing in an EML-1 architecture precludes the establishment of a cycler, and the first thing I’d look into would be a taxi service between the cycler and any crewed EML-1 facilities.
YetAnotherBob points out that:
“One problem with L1 that I didn’t see mentioned in the Article. The Lagrange Points L1, L2 and L3 are dynamically unstable. Gravity pulls everything there away from the point. There would need to be near constant station keeping. that means fuel. L4 and L5 are dynamically stable, meaning that an object inserted there will be pulled back into the Lagrange point. It’s a weird orbit, but it is an orbit. ”
I actually do mention it in the article, though indirectly. The whole point of the halo orbit is to induce some stability into something staying there. There are station keeping requirements, but as I note, it’s orders of magnitude less than for the ISS or other stations in LEO. He’s right that L-4 and L-5 are stable, though it’s more like wandering around on top of a gravitational mesa. Unless something changes the energy of the object, it’s going to stay in that general vicinity. Getting nudged around by the gravitational influences of the large bodies of the Solar system the whole while, but generally constrained to a particular volume of space.
He continues “And yes, the gravitational manifolds do connect the Lagrange Points for all of the planets. But, it can take decades to arrive there. Probably not good for passenger service.”
Which I don’t propose at all, though I have heard talks of using modified IPS trajectories for crewed trips to Mars, which I’m rather skeptical about.
He further adds “Finally, NASA has proposed a satellite for finding sun ward asteroids. However, it is at the Earth Sun L1, not one of the Earth Moon ones. That point is further Sun ward, and so would see more of the asteroids between Earth and Venus. With station keeping requirements, it would be able to stay on station for about 2 years.”
Which, in the tradition of NASA, is likely going to be another throwaway mission, another very expensive tool tossed into the void, just as they’ve done in the past. What I tried to suggest was that we can have ongoing data if we do things differently.
I think the problem really is the depth to which ‘traditional’ thinking in the space sector focuses on optimized solutions to specific issues. Want to put 20 metric tonnes at the South Pole of the Moon? An engineer can provide an optimized solution. Need a reason for that 20 mT? A scientist can provide a specific solution. Need some fundage? There’s a politician willing to look for a pork angle. Need an explantion of how value is added to the commonweal? Well, ummm…
There’s the rub. One thing I tried to address in my article was particular problems and possible solutions that address those problems.
1) If a crewed vehicle for exploration is being put through its paces on some test runs, EML-1 is a great location for a test run - close to home, but with a bit of a challenge to the mission - the establishment of a halo orbit.
2) While you’re there, might as well drop off some instruments. ‘Cause, you know, you’re there. Why wouldn’t you?
3) One thing that the instruments could do is look for NEOs in an unusual way.
1) There’s a lot of junk floating around in GEO space. Dead sats, expended kick stages.
2) From EML-1 it is way easier to get to GEO and back than to try to stage such missions from LEO.
3) So over the long term, you get a lot of benefits from staging such missions from EML-1.
I don’t know. Maybe my logic’s too complicated. Nevertheless, I do want to thank Jeff Foust for including the article in The Space Review.